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- Tue May 29, 2012 6:19 pm
- Forum: The Hangar
- Topic: 4 place EAB?
- Replies: 28
- Views: 33916
Sorry for the late reply. I agree with you, but you have to build it :) I don't seem to have time for that right now. Spike Not really, but does require some due diligence. A friend recently purchased a project that was 99.9% complete for $125k. Granted the interior was rather spartan, the panel ha...
- Thu May 24, 2012 4:49 pm
- Forum: The Hangar
- Topic: 4 place EAB?
- Replies: 28
- Views: 33916
Re: 4 place EAB?
So, with an interest in starting a fun conversation, riddle me this. If a dude (me) wanted to acquire a 4 place EAB for use as family capable weekend brunch aircraft, what would he be looking at? Seems that the 4 place EAB field is primarily made up of fire breathing composite dragons and $200K RV-...
- Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:50 pm
- Forum: RV 10
- Topic: Aerosport Products
- Replies: 7
- Views: 16622
WOW! That stuff is so cool it makes me wish I had enough friends so that I could justify building a 4 seater! :mrgreen: CJ You know there is an option to haul a motorcycle underneath? :roll: I think Geoff is looking to expand to other RV models, but doesn't want to expand to rapidly. I would give h...
- Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:53 am
- Forum: RV 10
- Topic: Aerosport Products
- Replies: 7
- Views: 16622
Another new line of Aerosport Products:
Seat Covers for the RV-10: http://aerosportproducts.com/rv10seats.htm
Seat Covers for the RV-10: http://aerosportproducts.com/rv10seats.htm
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:48 pm
- Forum: The Hangar
- Topic: I pick things up and I put them in...
- Replies: 25
- Views: 28685
Re: I pick things up and I put them in...
Tonight I came home from school, made some dinner and called Thomas from G3ignition. I am getting my mags early from Mattituck so that I can modify them and send them back to Mattituck so they can run them in the test cell. Let me know how it goes. I've got to do the same. Although it may be awhile...
- Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:21 pm
- Forum: RV 10
- Topic: Alternator Belt Alignment Issue
- Replies: 4
- Views: 12006
Here's the post that everyone has been waiting to see. I installed the new spacers from Plane Power this afternoon. They are a perfect fit for those that purchased a YIO-540-D4A5 from Vans and have a LW-12227 ring gear. If you fall into this category, I would highly recommend that you call Vans and ...
- Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:24 am
- Forum: RV 10
- Topic: Alternator Belt Alignment Issue
- Replies: 4
- Views: 12006
Plane Power using data from Lycoming have machined a new set of spacers. My previous post details the removal process for the spacers. I received them in the mail today and am planning on testing their fit on Sunday. I will post the result afterwards. It appears that Plane Power will sell these spac...
- Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:06 pm
- Forum: RV 10
- Topic: Alternator Belt Alignment Issue
- Replies: 4
- Views: 12006
To summarize what I believe happened that has not been confirmed by any of the three companies involved. Van's attempted to respond to a large customer and many other RV-10 builders that are installing air conditioning in their aircraft, requested Lycoming to switch the ring gear on the YIO-540-D4A5 that Van's resells to a dual pulley gear. Lycoming compiled with the request and supplied a LW-12227 ring gear. Lycoming failed to mention to Van's that the alternative belt grooved moved aft a little. Nobody told Plane Power that even the engine configuration was changed.
With that stated, both Plane Power and Lycoming have responded to my inquiry and have been very actively working on a solution. The list price on a new ring gear is about $1,700. Van's has not responded other than to pass the buck to their suppliers.
The following was the first email that I received today from Plane Power.
Lycoming reports that the alignment difference is .130†with the alternator pulley forward of the flywheel pulley. This fits what you have reported as well. If the alternator is adjusted to move aft (toward the firewall) to align with the flywheel pulley the Tension Arm (99-1004) will also be off alignment.
We intend to produce a kit solution for future applications. We understand your need is now so we offer the following suggestion to you.
The above instructions have not gone through our engineering process. It represents our effort to give you suggestions to assist you in your EXPERIMENTAL effort to fabricate a solution for your application. It is up to you to verify that the above suggestions are appropriate for your application.
To be honest, my immediate reaction was pretty negative with this response. I purchased an engine and a fire wall forward kit from Van's with the expectation that the alternator, alternator belt, and the engine ring gear alignment would be plug and play, just like it has been for years. I don't have the tools to perform these tasks nor the willingness to hire a firm to make them for me. Van's should have stepped up and admitted to the oversight, then work with the vendors to make all the builders that purchased this variation of the engine and the FWF suppled alternator a solution. The more I think about it, Van's should publish a service bulletin on this situation. If folks don't notice the 1/8" offset, they will eventually lose a belt due to coming off or premature wear.
Fortunately, Plane Power understanding that I probably didn't have the tools to be sucessful with their original instructions, sent me the following email a little later today.
We have a new solution for you. We are going to ship you some new spacers which we will cut down the size. So call me ASAP so we can get address, etc. and discus.
We thought removing the existing spacers from the alternator would be very difficult. So we tried and experiment and liked the results. To get your current two spacers out of the alternator do this. Get a container that will allow you to fill to a certain point with lacquer thinner. Arrange your project so you can soak the ear and spacer of the alternator in the lacquer thinner. DO NOT GET THE ALTERNATOR CASING IN THE THINNER - JUST THE EAR AND SPACER.
Leave submerged for one hour. Remove from the thinner and using a vice, pliers, etc twist the spacer out of the alternator ear. Perform the same task on the other ear & spacer. Then you can replace the old spacers with the new ones we will send you.
I suspect it will be a week or so before I can attempt to make this modification. I'll post an update with the results.
Bob
With that stated, both Plane Power and Lycoming have responded to my inquiry and have been very actively working on a solution. The list price on a new ring gear is about $1,700. Van's has not responded other than to pass the buck to their suppliers.
The following was the first email that I received today from Plane Power.
Lycoming reports that the alignment difference is .130†with the alternator pulley forward of the flywheel pulley. This fits what you have reported as well. If the alternator is adjusted to move aft (toward the firewall) to align with the flywheel pulley the Tension Arm (99-1004) will also be off alignment.
We intend to produce a kit solution for future applications. We understand your need is now so we offer the following suggestion to you.
- 1. Verify that you need your alternator to be moved .130†(or whatever your requirement is) and make that your new target point.
2. Leave the 99-1001 spacer attached to the alternator as it presently is. We don’t think you can remove it with satisfactory results. Machine grind the 99-1001 spacer by .130â€. Leave a flat surface. This will move the entire alternator aft. In doing so it will create a void at the 99-1002 front spacer.
3. Add a spacer or washers between the 99-1002 spacer and the mount bracket.
4. Add a spacer or washers between the tension arm (99-1004) and alternator where the tension arm connects to the alternator.
5. The starter strap will be attached on the outside of the mount as usual and no modification should be needed.
The above instructions have not gone through our engineering process. It represents our effort to give you suggestions to assist you in your EXPERIMENTAL effort to fabricate a solution for your application. It is up to you to verify that the above suggestions are appropriate for your application.
To be honest, my immediate reaction was pretty negative with this response. I purchased an engine and a fire wall forward kit from Van's with the expectation that the alternator, alternator belt, and the engine ring gear alignment would be plug and play, just like it has been for years. I don't have the tools to perform these tasks nor the willingness to hire a firm to make them for me. Van's should have stepped up and admitted to the oversight, then work with the vendors to make all the builders that purchased this variation of the engine and the FWF suppled alternator a solution. The more I think about it, Van's should publish a service bulletin on this situation. If folks don't notice the 1/8" offset, they will eventually lose a belt due to coming off or premature wear.
Fortunately, Plane Power understanding that I probably didn't have the tools to be sucessful with their original instructions, sent me the following email a little later today.
We have a new solution for you. We are going to ship you some new spacers which we will cut down the size. So call me ASAP so we can get address, etc. and discus.
We thought removing the existing spacers from the alternator would be very difficult. So we tried and experiment and liked the results. To get your current two spacers out of the alternator do this. Get a container that will allow you to fill to a certain point with lacquer thinner. Arrange your project so you can soak the ear and spacer of the alternator in the lacquer thinner. DO NOT GET THE ALTERNATOR CASING IN THE THINNER - JUST THE EAR AND SPACER.
Leave submerged for one hour. Remove from the thinner and using a vice, pliers, etc twist the spacer out of the alternator ear. Perform the same task on the other ear & spacer. Then you can replace the old spacers with the new ones we will send you.
I suspect it will be a week or so before I can attempt to make this modification. I'll post an update with the results.
Bob
- Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:56 am
- Forum: RV 10
- Topic: Alternator Belt Alignment Issue
- Replies: 4
- Views: 12006
Alternator Belt Alignment Issue
A little over a year or so ago, Van's had Lycoming change the flywheel to a LW-12227 to accomodate a dual belt system to support both the alternator and air conditioning. This part has the alternator belt on the rear and a V shaped groove in front for the A/C. Myself and several others that purchase...
- Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:06 pm
- Forum: RV 10
- Topic: Engine Hung
- Replies: 7
- Views: 14622
- Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:33 pm
- Forum: RV 10
- Topic: Engine Hung
- Replies: 7
- Views: 14622
Engine Hung
After a rather long ordeal with UPS this week, I finally got the engine hung today.
bob
bob
- Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:29 pm
- Forum: RV 10
- Topic: Any Reason to Keep Avery Hand Squeezer Handle?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 14751
Re: Any Reason to Keep Avery Hand Squeezer Handle?
I got an Avery toolkit, with various additions and deletions, before I attended a builder's class where I was exposed to the Chicago Pneumatic #214 squeezer. I liked it enough to buy one of Avery's #214 units. Are there conditions where the hand squeezer will come in handy (so to speak) or am I saf...
- Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:07 pm
- Forum: RV 10
- Topic: Aerosport Products
- Replies: 7
- Views: 16622
RV-10 Door Handle Kit
Geoff has does it again!
Aerosport is offering a RV-10 Door Handle Kit.
http://aerosportproducts.com/handles.htm
Aerosport is offering a RV-10 Door Handle Kit.
http://aerosportproducts.com/handles.htm
- Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:18 pm
- Forum: Electrical Systems
- Topic: Aerosport Switches
- Replies: 1
- Views: 7034
Aerosport Switches
Aerosport Products ( http://www.aerosportproducts.com/switches.htm ) has recently added LED backlit switches to their product line. Geoff has been expanding his product line into other RV models.
- Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:13 pm
- Forum: Electrical Systems
- Topic: Strobes N' More LED Strobes
- Replies: 12
- Views: 20556
Re: Strobes N' More LED Strobes
Yah, so a friend of mine just got a pair of these: http://www.strobesnmore.com/strobes-n-more-e-series-hide-a-way-led-kit.html They are pretty cool! I think I might get them for my wingtips! Are they legal? I dunno? :? CJ I can't speak to this new model, but the previous versions were extremely RF ...
- Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:26 pm
- Forum: RV 10
- Topic: N410BL moves to the airport
- Replies: 5
- Views: 12123
- Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:14 am
- Forum: RV 10
- Topic: N410BL moves to the airport
- Replies: 5
- Views: 12123
N410BL moves to the airport
My garage wasn’t long enough to mount the engine and put the landing gear on my RV-10, so I leased a hangar this month. This morning we moved everything to the KDLZ. With a large group of friends, EAA’ers, and RV’ers the move happened without a hitch. We loaded the all the aircraft parts on th...
- Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:04 am
- Forum: The Hangar
- Topic: Finishing Kit Shipping Price!
- Replies: 56
- Views: 54565
I just received my RV-10 finish kit. It cost $460 to deliver to the Columbus, OH area. It was also shipped by BAX, which is now DB Schenker. I had a mixed experience, but the crate arrived in perfect condition. The fee included lift gate service to the house. The local terminal coordinator stated th...
- Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:15 pm
- Forum: RV 10
- Topic: Are there any RV-10 builders?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 26867
All I can say is that there some history that goes back to the days when VAF was still a Yahoo list. I wasn't around then, so I can't really comment. Matronics has two user interfaces. One is an email list and the other is the traditional forum interface. Regardless of what you think about Rivetbang...
- Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:39 pm
- Forum: RV 10
- Topic: Are there any RV-10 builders?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 26867
Re: New RV-10'r
You got them covered. The RV-10 crowd seems to gravitate towards Matronics for some reason.ppilotmike wrote: I am already on the VAF site, Matronics, and now this one too. Any more I should know about?
bob