Do I need a Facet pump?

cjensen · Post by **cjensen** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:41 pm

Okay, razz me all you want...I've orderd my finish kit, and did choose and engine. Ready for this??? O-320!

Anyway, I was working on interior fuel lines last night, and I come across this-

It says "if required; not provided with kit". How do I know if I need this?

Brantel · Post by **Brantel** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:42 pm

I think yes if you are going with a Carb. That is your boost pump. Unless you are planning some alternative way of doing it.

Post by **Spike** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:00 pm

Good engine choice! I think you will need it dude since you have the carb.

cjensen · Post by **cjensen** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:00 pm

Thanks boys! I just ordered one from Van's...

tmbg · Post by **tmbg** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:35 pm

thank god THATS over!

cjensen · Post by **cjensen** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:21 pm

You're not kiddin'!!

dons · Post by **dons** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:52 pm

An O-320 is a good choice, but have you decided who to get it from ?

cjensen · Post by **cjensen** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:57 pm

dons wrote:An O-320 is a good choice, but have you decided who to get it from ?

If I buy new, it will more than likely be Mattituck. Aerosport is a close second, but we've had several engines done by Mattituck here at work for customers (we have a Cardinal engine on the floor right now, waiting to be hung). Always great service!

I am looking for cores too though. I have pretty good resources here at work, so that is always an option for me!

tmbg · Post by **tmbg** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:50 pm

I'm gonna be overhauling my own with my pet A&P, so I'm looking for cores too!

dons · Post by **dons** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:13 pm

Well, I guess that means it's the end of era around here

. I think you have considered and investigated more about the various engine choices than anyone else Chad (this is a good thing by the way).

Womack2005 · Post by **Womack2005** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:21 pm

What he said! I'm looking for a 360 core to overhaul too. I haven't done one since I worked as an A&P, but a friend of mine has the tools I'll need.

Post by **Spike** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:28 pm

Oh come on guys. There is still:

Engine manufacturer
Prop type
Prop Manufacturer
Scheme & colors
Interior
....
....
....

I dont think we are done with the decisons yet.

And if your taking votes, I vote for Superior.

cjensen · Post by **cjensen** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:54 pm

Spike wrote:Oh come on guys. There is still:

Engine manufacturer
Prop type
Prop Manufacturer
Scheme & colors
Interior
....
....
....

I dont think we are done with the decisons yet.

And if your taking votes, I vote for Superior.

I hope a couple of these are already made...prop type-constant speed (ordered CS spinner and hardware), prop manufacturer-Hartzell (for a little more weight up front), Paint scheme and colors has been decided for quite some time, and no it has not been changed, I'm just not sharing it, interior-that's still out, depending on the seatback material decision...

jim_geo · Post by **jim_geo** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:48 pm

First of all let me congratulate Chad for finding a place to land. Finally.

Now, for all you find a core guys. IMHO don't waste your time. Buy a kit and assemble it. If you buy a core you may (read that probably will) end up spending just as much or more on parts. So many possible hidden problems in core engines. So many down the road problems with used parts. With a kit engine there are very few things you need to check for dimensionally and from what I've found you're only double checking someone else's good work. With a kit engine it's new parts from the heads down to the last bolt. If you're inclined to turn wrenches I say go for a kit. Someone told me not so long ago "no one takes an engine off a plane because it's running sooo good". Remember guys and Mrs CoPilot this is just MHO and your results may vary.

JohnR · Post by **JohnR** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:41 am

Way to go Chad! I think that will make a great engine for your plane. Good choice.

cjensen · Post by **cjensen** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:52 pm

jim_geo wrote:First of all let me congratulate Chad for finding a place to land. Finally.

Now, for all you find a core guys. IMHO don't waste your time. Buy a kit and assemble it. If you buy a core you may (read that probably will) end up spending just as much or more on parts. So many possible hidden problems in core engines. So many down the road problems with used parts. With a kit engine there are very few things you need to check for dimensionally and from what I've found you're only double checking someone else's good work. With a kit engine it's new parts from the heads down to the last bolt. If you're inclined to turn wrenches I say go for a kit. Someone told me not so long ago "no one takes an engine off a plane because it's running sooo good". Remember guys and Mrs CoPilot this is just MHO and your results may vary.

Thanks Jim! Finally is right!!!

Here's my take on cores...Depends on if the history is known, I think. Take Doug Reeves for example. His 320 was pulled in order to put a 360 on. Nothing wrong with the 320, he just wanted more power and a CS prop for formation. Now, an engine with no known history, no log books, and covered in oil would be something I would certainly shy away from.

Cores can be a great value, if it's done with the right amount of research and info. Otherwise, a kit engine would be the next best thing. I have to be honest, I hadn't even really thought about a 320 kit engine. I'll put that on my list of things to think about!

cjensen · Post by **cjensen** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:53 pm

JohnR wrote:Way to go Chad! I think that will make a great engine for your plane. Good choice.

Thanks John! I think so too! Never thought it would happen did ya!?

aparchment · Post by **aparchment** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:45 pm

Chad, I admire the path you are taking with this plane and the pace at which you are moving through the construction. There's a lot to be said for keeping it simple and relatively inexpensive (if there is such a thing in aircraft ownership).

The plane will fly great with a 320. I know because a friend here in Maine has a 320 in his 7 and it flies great. In fact, even with he and I onboard (about 400 lbs) and full fuel, the plane still hauls. I have seen us at 200 mph many times. Of course the climb isn't amazing, but it's better than most single engine production planes. It may get even better once he gets his Cato prop.

Watching you with interest!

Antony

JohnR · Post by **JohnR** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:59 am

cjensen wrote:
JohnR wrote:Way to go Chad! I think that will make a great engine for your plane. Good choice.
Thanks John! I think so too! Never thought it would happen did ya!?

Sure I did. I always figured you would end up with a Lyco just wasn't sure which one. The decision making part is just part of the process and a lot of the fun. We each get to choose what WE want, which is the way it should be. I had faith you would make a good choice.

Bob Barrett · Post by **Bob Barrett** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:44 pm

I have an 0-320 with a 160 hp but with the rapid increase in the price of gas, especially 100 LL consideration made be made to convert it to 150 hp and burn 92 Octane auto gas with ethonal. The savings could pay for the change over for me. I currently plan to fly off my 25 hour test period in the 160 hp version. Then I plan to look seriously at switching in part or whole to auto gas. I have flown this same engine in a rental 172 successfully with 92 Octane unleaded. I have considered having 92 Octane in the left tank for crusize and keep 100 LL in the right tank for take-off's and landings. I will be doning some more research on it before I make a definite decsion.

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Do I need a Facet pump?

Do I need a Facet pump?

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