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Post by Cherokee Driver »

Greetings everyone,

I am sorry that I have been out of touch for over a year. I have not posted for quite some time as a different project has taken me from building. I have stopped in to read posts off and on but I have been unable to contribute to the list as I have not touched aluminum for over 18 months. I am very impressed with progress of everyone and you are all an inspiration to those of us who had to put the project aside for a while.

I thought I would share the reason why I interupted my early building efforts in hopes you may appreciate the cause.

We put a rather large addition on the house and when the topic of the basement came up my "Angel" of a wife said..."I don't care what you do with the basement...it is all yours." (I did not ask twice!)

So the next question was how to make use of 1600 sq feet of space. (I know...many of you would like this problem.) :mrgreen:

While the whole addition project has some work to go...I finally moved some airplane parts in and it is somewhat presentable so I took photos tonight of some of the results.

Main shop details:

About 800 Square feet of heated and air-conditioned space with access to the outside with a service door and a 14 foot overhead garage door that walks out to grade. Lighting consists of over 2000 watts of florescent lighting that is individually switchable depending on the work area. The ceiling and walls are white. My eyesight is not what it used to be so I like a lot of light.
(The only "Shadow" in the shop is the cat. (Named "Shadow")

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Main shop has two hard line compressed air lines in the walls that go to a compressor remotely located in a sound proofed room. Two lines that can be independantly regulated off site to prevent accidental adjustments. Main shop is sound proofed in the ceiling with 18 inches of insulation and sound board to save my youngest (who has some developmental challenges) from loud riveting noises when he is upstairs.
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Main shop houses a fridge (for adhesives only of course :mrgreen: ) and dry bar (to put adhesives on when not in the fridge...).

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Wood Shop Details:

Separate wood shop to keep wood dust and house-hold projects out of the main shop. Three in-wall air lines tied to remote air compressor located in other utility room for noise control. The slop sink is in this room. 14 chest high outlets spread over three different 20 amp circuits. 1120 watts of lighting in this room. Work bench 4 inches higher than standard height (I am 6'03'' so this is a more comfortable height for me)

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Paint/chemical room:

Approx 140 square feet of seperate shop space for handling chemicals and paint. 300 cu. feet/min. exhaust fan in ceiling to exhause fumes out of shop. Air line in wall to remote compressor.

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Not shown is full bathroom with oversized shower (under construction).

I admit I am proud of how it turned out given the fact that I had to learn the framing, drywall, plumbing and airline installation (virtually everything) with no prior backgound. I had some electrical background so that was the only thing I had some backgound in when I started. I have always dreamed of a nice workshop and this should be a good environment to learn how to now build an airplane.

Waddya think?

CD
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Post by cjensen »

CD, I am BLOWN AWAY!!! That is an INCREDIBLE space!! Congrats on all the work you've completed so far. That is an inspiration to me, believe it or not!

I get in to Waukesha every now and then...I'll have to look you up to come see it!

Welcome back!

8) 8) 8)
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Post by Cherokee Driver »

Chad,

I would LOVE to meet you. I have been watching your work and web page since I joined the forum. You have a great project! (And I love your dogs too!!!) My shop would welcome a visit any time. Maybe I'll run into some rivet bangers at OSH. I'll be up there all week and will have my hat on to show my RB pride! Take care and thanks for the kind words. CD
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The Rivetbangers dinner at The Black Otter in Appleton is Tuesday night...you gonna go?

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Post by JohnR »

CD, that shop looks great. Nice job on planning and executing. Welcome back, maybe we'll see you at Osh.
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I did not sign up. I am under the impression that all of the activities are pretty much booked up. Am I mistaken?
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Yup! You are mistaken about the RB dinner! Please come and join us man! The RV BBQ that is hosted by Bob Collins is closed, but the Rivetbangers dinner is open!

Be great to see ya!

Contact Scott (svanarts on here) with your contact info so we can all meet up to head over there. There is a thread in The Hanger about the dinner. It's a poll to estimate how many will be there. Titled "NOTAM"....something or other...

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The RV dinner at Osh is "booked", but the Rivetbangers dinner on Tuesday night is still open. Will has not said anything about closing it. Come on out!!

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Nice workshop! I think I could live in that basement. Has everything a growing boy needs.

Click on the email button below and send me your cell phone info so we can add you to the OSH contact database.
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Post by Cherokee Driver »

Done and done. Barring a work related conflict...I am in. Looking forward to meeting everyone. Thanks for all the nice comments on the Workshop. I tried to think of everything I could...but there is always room for improvment. If there are ideas out there to improve on things...I am all about making changes.

Each work bench I made I ended up making changes to from the last design. First one was straight EAA. Second had a set of wheels on the end so I could pick up one end and move it around "wheelbarrow fashion." I also added a tool tray on one end. Newer ones then had four swivel casters with lock downs on the corners and another tool tray. My crowning achievement is the C-Frame tabel with removable insert to set the C-Frame in and a removeable carpeted top... tool trays on each end and wheels. (I tend to have everything on wheels to make the shop more flexable, and to allow movement of the tool to the work.)

I'll tell you what though...I'd trade the shop and all the tools for the knowledge that all of you guys have. I still take a lot of time learning and fumbling around.

I guess that is the plan though.

CD
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Post by captain_john »

CD, that shop is over the top!!!

Good to see your voice again!

Hope to see you soon!

:) CJ
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Post by dons »

CD, that is a incredible shop, or should I say set of shops. Don't worry about not being an ace rv builder yet, with a setup like that you obviously don't mind learning new things, so it will come for sure. A nice work area will make learning more things that more enjoyable. My whole shop area is barely over 200 square feet and I've spent more than half my free time for almost a year working on it, so it is very clear just how much effort you have put into making that great place to build a plane. :good job:
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Post by Cherokee Driver »

Thanks Don for your kind encouragement,

I know what it is like to be in cramped quarters. The previous work area was about 100 square feet or so and benches took up a lot of that. I just stoped working on the tail cause I had no place to do the dimpling. About that time we made the decision to add on to the house so it just made sense to put the project on hold. Now I need to get re motivated...stop tweeking the shop, and start back into the building. I need to spend a weekend figuring out where I left off, moving the rest of the parts in, re inventorying parts etc. I have a feeling Airventure will get the avgas flowing through my veins again. This forum is also helpful. Months went by without me stopping in to live vicariously through the group. I am peeking into your lives more and more now too so the fire is being re lit! I hope to settle into a routine of drilling and pounding later in the fall.

Thanks to all for your nice feed back on the shop. I know I am very fortunate. I wish I had any one of you next door and I would open up the shop to your project just so I could look over your shoulder. (Would that be cool :?: TWO AIRPLANES being built in the same place. 8) )

Now it is time to learn how to put all those pieces together. :o For everyone going to OSH, I ask that you have a safe trip wether you are flying , driving, jumping trains (don't do that...). Hope to meet a few of you over a steak.

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