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Great EAA chapter meeting - sorry this is a little long

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Tonight we had out Christmas meeting. For a speaker we had Bob “Prof” Struth. HE is a graduate of "Top Gun" and "Test Pilot School". With over 11,000 hours and 99 night carrier landings. :o I don't remember how many day carrier landings.

He was the pilot in the photo below, and no he didn't get in any kind of trouble for it, regardles of what everyone on the internet says. He had permission to burn excess fuel before landing. 8)

He gave some detai lon the F14 which I ofund very interesting. It carried 16000 pounds of fuel and with the afterburners lits would burn 2,000 pound a minute. :o

He was the primary test pilot for the A model. He flew one from takeoff to 58,000 feet in under 2 minutes. I believe he said 1 minute 56 seconds. :o

He mentioned that the F14 was capable of 28 miles a minute. 8)

He also did testing with the wings out of sync and landed at 250 knots with one side folded all the way back and the other all the way out.

On one takeoff fro ma carrier, as he left the deck his right landing gear fell off! It damaged the tailhook and he had to do a "go-around" and then fly into the net to get it back on the deck.

Another instance he was 250 miles out from the carrier and the right engine literally blew up. He flew back on one engine and had to make a decision. He was carrying over 6 million in munitions and needed to decide if he would dump it or not. They came in with all the munitions in place and the tailhook did not catch. The ship tracked them for 4 1/2 miles BELOW the deck level of the ship which is 60 feet above the water! Finally got it back in the air refueled and made another run at it and got it in. HE said the rear seat was a little nervous. I would have bee na lot nervous!

Another time he was flying backseat with a "nugget", a new pilot. They came in for a night landing on the carrier and missed. Not enough fuel for another try so up they went to the tanker and refueled. They flew twelve attempts beofre finally getting it on the deck. "Prof" had a few choice words for the pilot and threw his knee board at him as soon as they were safely stopped. The pilot could not taxi the aircraft offof the runway as he was to frazzled. The new pilot turned in his wings the next morning as he did not want any more.

"Prof" is now retired from the military and works for Rockwell Collins in Cedar Rapids. He give rides in his Christensen Eagle for 1/2 of expenses. I am bummed as I cannot go because he says that 6'1" is max height he can fit in. He said he would make the ride as mild or as wild as a person would like. He did mention that he likes flying upside down. :)

It was a real privilege to hear this stuff first hand and to meet and shake "Prof's" hand. :)

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Great story John. Ain't them guys just sumpn' else?

Love the picture too. I especially like the guy standing there on the deck real casual with his hands behind his back like that happens all the time.
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Man John!! You guys have some GREAT meetings over there! JEALOUS!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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John, I am tempted to join THAT chapter! Very cool write up :mrgreen:

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Thanks for sharing that John, to hear those things first hand is something I'm sure you will remember for a lifetime.
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It is a great chapter. We have a good group of active members that are all very friendly. Not a huge chapter but we id have 50 people at the meeting last night.

One of the other threads reminded me that "Prof" was the training officer assigned to the Top Gun movie crew. He worked with all of the actors and crew in going through the dunk tank ("Dilbert" I believe he called it) and in the altitude chamber, etc. The shots in the film were all actually shot in F14's but with the actors in the back seat. The G forces effects shown by the actors in the movie were real.

He mentioned also that Tom C. was the only one of the actors that did not get sick.

Come on over and join guys. You could always fly into the meetings. :wink:
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I thought his name sounded really familiar...I recently watched disk two of my special addition of Top Gun again (for the 254th time). He's in there A LOT!!
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Chad, I have to buy the CD set. I've seen it several times but I don't have it and it would be interesting to watch again with this new insite.

One more thing. Maybe everyone here already knows this, but they are destroying all of the F14's. None of them will ever fly again. It seems Iran owns 72 of them and they are afraid the parts may fall into the wrong hands. One of our members suggested we just destroy the 72 they own and keep ours.
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Yeah, it was a bitter-sweet day here at BMI last spring when the US Navy brought an F-14 to our airport to be retired at our Prairie Aviation Museum. When they arrived, they did several fly-bys and a few touch and goes. They were low on fuel, and couldn't do any full burner passes, but it was still really cool. The sad part was that when they landed, they just let her die as she ran out of fuel, and breathed her last breath. It took about 30 minutes, as she just didn't want to give up. When she finally did, the crowd was in awe of what they had just witnessed. :( The last time she would ever run.

This F-14 now sits proudly as a static display facing the main road that goes by the airport for all passersby to view her. She's been stripped of her engines, panel, and ejection seat for obvious reasons, but she still looks FIERCE sitting there as I drive by her everyday on my way in to the parking lot at work.

Along side this Tomcat, keeping her company, are an F-4 Phantom, a T-38 Talon, an A-4 Skyhawk, an A-7 Corsair, a T-33 Shooting Star, a Cobra helicopter, and a Huey. 8)
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JohnR wrote: One more thing. Maybe everyone here already knows this, but they are destroying all of the F14's. None of them will ever fly again. It seems Iran owns 72 of them and they are afraid the parts may fall into the wrong hands. One of our members suggested we just destroy the 72 they own and keep ours.
Not all of the F-14's will be cut up for scrap. Some of the F-14D's will be kept in war reserve at Davis-Monthan AFB )the boneyard) in case of future need. I was involved in the F-14 repair overhaul and mod program for a bit of years, and in 2002, I had to make a trip to the boneyard to evaluate certain F-14 components to for reuse on active Tomcats. The boneyard is an awesome place to see.

Iran originally had a contract for 80 Tomcats, and 79 of them were delivered and number 80 ended up remaining in the US. I think only a handful remain airworthy due to age and lack of parts. I had heard at one point, Iran wouldnt even use them as fighters anymore just used the tomcats radar systems as an airborne early warning system.

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Tom, thanks for the input. I hope that is correct. "Prof" had told us that they had recently made the decision to not put any in the boneyard and destroy all of them. I sure hope your right on some going to the boneyard.

Chad, that sounds like a sad moment. However if it has to be doing nothing somewhere, a place where you can drive by it everyday is as good as any. :wink:
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JohnR wrote:Tom, thanks for the input. I hope that is correct. "Prof" had told us that they had recently made the decision to not put any in the boneyard and destroy all of them. I sure hope your right on some going to the boneyard.
Early 2002, I went to the boneyard to evaluate F-14's stored there for possible cannabalazition of aux and manuver flaps suitable for reuse after little repair.

We were given a list of bureau numbers of aircraft they wanted us to look at in order. The first block of numbers were were given(about 30 aircraft) we were told were 'war reserve aircraft'. Special permission would have to come from the Chief of Naval Operations to 'rob' parts from those birds which we were told we wouldnt get for our purposes. We were told that 'war reserve aircraft' theorhetically could be turned around and put back in service in thirty days.

The two and a half days in Tuscon, I had climbed up on 129 Tomcats in an effort to find parts suitable for 'robbing'.

Wiki has a good F-14 page, lots of info and links to other tomcat sites. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-14

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