Got the Aileron Pushrods welded!

smittysrv · Post by **smittysrv** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:51 am

That's a great idea Chad! Thanks!

captain_john · Post by **captain_john** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:52 am

cjensen wrote:The nuts can't move unless both zip ties fail, and the torque seal lets go...

AND the torque seal let's go? What does the torque seal "hold"?

CJ

cjensen · Post by **cjensen** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:46 am

Torque seal has some staying power when fully dried...

I know it's just an indicator of movement, but in this case, I "sealed" four of the six sides of the nut. Provides some, if not much, grip when it's applied to the surface and threads.

weezbad · Post by **weezbad** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:55 am

captain_john wrote:
cjensen wrote:The nuts can't move unless both zip ties fail, and the torque seal lets go...
AND the torque seal let's go? What does the torque seal "hold"?

CJ

chads dreamin ,it aint holding nothing
i use finger nail polish because when i was in the ARMY the Anti sabatooers (sp) laquer would dry and break off. keep in mind the heli's have high speed rotating parts. they used the nail polish as well.. the torque seal is not a holder but and indicator that the torque was lost. it aint holding squat.

TomNativeNewYorker · Post by **TomNativeNewYorker** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:57 am

Why not just use a nut that has holes in it for safety wire and saftey wire the nut on with .032" wire?

weezbad · Post by **weezbad** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:00 pm

TomNativeNewYorker wrote:Why not just use a nut that has holes in it for safety wire and saftey wire the nut on with .032" wire?

that would be great if you could find a way to secure it to the heim bearing , another hole perhaps.

cjensen · Post by **cjensen** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:01 pm

weezbad wrote:the torque is not a holder but and indicator that the torque was lost. it aint holding squat.

I realize that...didn't mean to make it sound like I'm using it as a "hold". What I mean is, it has some "grip" of it's own...not to hold the nut in place, or keep it torque'd.

Sorry I wasn't quite clear on what I was trying to say...

I like the nail polish idea!

smittysrv · Post by **smittysrv** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:34 pm

I just got off the phone with Van's and all they recommend doing is putting torque seal on the nut and the bolt (which doesn't really seal anything) and do inspections every once in a while to see if the seal breaks. That tells you if you have a loose connection. They didn't say anything about additional wiring or anything else. Go figure...

captain_john · Post by **captain_john** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:22 pm

Ohhhhh WEEEEE!

That stuff I stepped in sure does stink!

Sorry Chad...

CJ

tmbg · Post by **tmbg** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:11 am

even more nice wonderful welding....

These are just practice welds on 4130 tubing. We're gonna be building Pitts fuselages before too long

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captain_john · Post by **captain_john** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:53 am

CRAP!

Ian, with a row o' dimes like that... you can do my Pitts ANYTIME!

CJ

tmbg · Post by **tmbg** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:20 am

hehe, I'm not as consistent as I need to be yet, but practice makes perfect!

JohnR · Post by **JohnR** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:31 am

Ian, great looking weld. What are yo uusing for equipment?

Luke has plans for a Pitts Model 12 he bought last summer. He has some of the tubing at school with him and is planning on using the nice shop he has there to make all the small parts.

What model are you building?

tmbg · Post by **tmbg** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:49 am

I have a synchrowave 200. I'd like to add a water cooled torch to it in the near future.

My buddy Dan and I are going to build a pair of S2C's. He's a phenomenal welder and has been helping me learn. He taught me the trick of using safety wire as filler, which is what I used in that weld (0.032" stainless). It's convenient cause I always have safety wire around

Post by **Spike** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:09 am

JohnR wrote: Luke has plans for a Pitts Model 12...?

Drool

smittysrv · Post by **smittysrv** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:02 pm

Well, I got the ailerons rods in. I'm having to shave off little of the rear spar hole. Anyone know what the deflection angles are for up and down aileron?

tmbg · Post by **tmbg** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:26 pm

are you having interference issues?

smittysrv · Post by **smittysrv** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:24 pm

Not with the welds. They are staying just outside the hole. It's the sides of the ailerod rod that are touching the edges of the rear spar hole, but only in the deflected positions.

weezbad · Post by **weezbad** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:43 pm

now rip it apart (if you can)

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Got the Aileron Pushrods welded!

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