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Wing Stand Question ->

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:05 pm
by N200PF
This is a question for Chad and all those that have built wing stands based on Rudy's design.

Why couldn't I just level off the arms that come off the posts that I have anchored to my floor and put two stabilizing screws through them to keep them level on the posts? In other words, do I really need to fab up the "adjustable arm" pieces or is that sort of a redundant component?

The reason I'm asking is as a rookie builder, I won't know what I could be setting myself up for by not having them adjustable.

Let me know what you think?!?

THANKS!!! - Peter

PS - Oh yeah...my wings came today! WOOHOO! I'll spare you the ABF pictures, but I did take them! :mrgreen:

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:55 pm
by captain_john
Peter, you don't need the adjustable arm thing on both sides. I didn't.

I did put it on one side though. I thought that I might need to remove a twist if one appeared and it really didn't so I am not sure that an adjustable anything is really necessary.

Build a simple jig and if it isn't working like you please, modify it.

One bite at a time!

:popcorn: CJ

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:06 pm
by cjensen
The adjustable arm is redundant, but it does make for an infinitly adjustable arm in the smallest degree needed. You don't need it though. I think you could build the wings without a jig if you're careful. They are just so well engineered, that it ALMOST makes the jig unneccesary. :wink:

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:31 pm
by N200PF
OK Thanks Guys!

I think it's just been a long week. :yawn: ...and I really wanted to have the stands done before these big boxes of wing parts showed up.

It's not a race and I'll stick to plan A. It's just tough knowing that I can't tear in to the wings and start inventory until these stands are done...

- Peter

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:38 am
by JohnR
Fabbing the adjustable portion only took a few minutes once you have the materials in hand. You probably don't need it but fro mmy experience it could be the quickest way to get them level.

Actually drilling the holes in the concrete was the worst part. I eve nhad a good hammer drill and it was still a pain. :roll:

just finished this

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:42 am
by aparchment
I just finished this arduous task recently and did the two adjustable arms per set of stands. I found that having two arms made it easy for me to zero each side. Like John said, do whatever works. I am amazed (well not really) at how easy it was to fit the skins after everything is set up. I assume that if you built the wing flat on a bench the skins would set your alignment pretty well, but I didn't want to test my theory.

Antony

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:43 pm
by N200PF
Thanks again Guys - I fabbed everything up and pounded them out today and they're done. I'll be sarting inventory tonight and hope to get is mostly done before the weeks travel begins again on Monday.

By the way, I went RED on mine because I hadn't seen a set that color yet...

- Peter

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:07 pm
by JohnR
You mean like this? :wink:

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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:03 am
by cjensen
I thought yours were red, John.

Peter, are yours BRIGHTER than Johns!? :wink:

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:12 pm
by N200PF
DOH!!! :bang:

John do you want me to pain them pink?!?

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Hey can one of you guys post some pictures of how you actually attached the spar to the stand arm?

- Peter

PS - I know that's a ways aways but heck...I better ask now.

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:58 am
by cjensen
Here's how I did the two ends-

The angle is attached to the rib via two holes I drilled in the rib web just for this purpose.
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The root end is just clamped in place with a piece of paper between the spar and arm to prevent scratching and piece of wood on top for the same reason.
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Here's how I attached the rear spar-
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:)

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:55 pm
by Womack2005
Gret Pics Chad! This will help me as well :mrgreen:

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:09 pm
by JohnR
Peter, red is good. I chose red because it matched my tool box. Pink would be unique though! :)

I mounted mine just like Chad did except I didn't put any paper in between the stands and the spar. :wink:

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:23 pm
by N200PF
Thanks for the SUPER pics Chad!!! That helps a TON!!! :!: :!: :!:

...and John I think I'll stick with the red!

- Peter

John's wing stands are great!

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:19 pm
by RV9inIowa
Thanks to JohnR for lending me his awesome wings stands! I mounted them to the concrete today:
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It was really easy - I used 1/4 inch tapcons. The hammer drill went through the concrete like butter with the special tapcon bit. Came out nice and sturdy and the spars even fit.


I'm building in the small one-car side of a 3 car garage, so it's getting tight. I have 29 inches between the spars which will have to be enough.

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THANKS JOHN!!! You're the BEST :lol: I'm hoping to be catching up to you on a fuselage by fall.

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:34 pm
by JohnR
Dave, glad to see you got the stands put up! It is good to see those stands working again! Maybe by the time your done with them Kevin will be ready for them. You out there Kevin? :wink:

Oh yeah, thanks for the chocalate chip cookies, they were great!

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:02 pm
by captain_john
This is what the network is all about!

I just got back from Thermos' now! We installed a few tank ribs!

:mrgreen: CJ

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:13 am
by Thermos
captain_john wrote:I just got back from Thermos' now! We installed a few tank ribs!
We did indeed...

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Time for a victory beer... :drink:

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:02 am
by Spike
Yeesh, everytime I see you you have less hair. Get a control of that would you? Please, for the love of humanity :mrgreen:

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:45 am
by RV9inIowa
captain_john wrote:This is what the network is all about!

I just got back from Thermos' now! We installed a few tank ribs!

:mrgreen: CJ
I had no idea there were so many RV builders in New England.... I lived in Nashua NH for 17 years and only saw a few.... Myabe I would have stayed back East... NOT!

(I do miss the seafood, though)