QB or SB?

1:1_Scale · Post by **1:1_Scale** » Sun May 27, 2007 3:37 pm

Just wondering what path everyone is taking and why? I initially was planning on the QB route, but since I want to pay for everything (except maybe the engine) out of pocket, I have been thinking the SB route may be better. More building time = more time to make & save the money for everything else required for the plane. I also think I would enjoy watching the structure come together, although I know there's going to be some tedious times involved there

captain_john · Post by **captain_john** » Sun May 27, 2007 6:28 pm

I went SB for a couple or a few reasons.

Early in the game (and arguably still) I was clueless and didn't know what I wanted or needed.

The SB gave me the time to think about it and allowed me to save some money in the meanwhile to make the plane of my dreams.

Now, I am glad I went SB as I am just now, after 2.5 years of building getting a focus on exactly what I want for bells and whistles.

I think about the loot I saved and the experience I gained and I feel really good about my decision.

My $0.02...

CJ

cjensen · Post by **cjensen** » Sun May 27, 2007 6:28 pm

Standard all the way! Why? Money first of all. Second, after building the tail, I LOVE building, and a QB takes A LOT away.

You will fly sooner though!

svanarts · Post by **svanarts** » Sun May 27, 2007 11:03 pm

I'd go quickbuild if I could. I already built an RV-4. If I could get past all the riveting I sure would. The reason I'm going slow-build is that's all I can afford. Actually, I'm not even sure I can afford the slow build.

JohnR · Post by **JohnR** » Sun May 27, 2007 11:50 pm

Slow build for me. Dollars played in to it quite a bit. Also I really wanted to be able ot say I built the whole plane. Of course it is a kit and predriled but still I like the idea of understanding how the whole thing is put together.

I like the riveting. The only part I really don't enjoy is the priming and the prep for it. I do feel good about priming it though as I'm not sure where the plane will live in the future. Maybe here in Iowa, maybe elsewhere.

I will say that right now with the fuselage all clecoed together I don't look forward to tearing it all down, deburring, countersinking, and priming but once it is done I will be glad I did it.

dons · Post by **dons** » Mon May 28, 2007 11:09 am

I went SB more for the learning experience than anything else. I have spent my whole life designing/building things (and taking them apart), so the more I know about the insides the more comfortable I will be doing things on the airplane. If I ever were to build a second one, I think I would go QB.

I also agree with John about the priming, if I wasn't going to be flying the thing in the clouds and to the coast, I wouldn't be doing nearly as much. BTW John, I like the prehistoric squirrel too, I actually watched the 'meltdown' the day before you changed avatars. He would make a great airplane builder, gets his teeth into something and just won't let go.

JohnR · Post by **JohnR** » Mon May 28, 2007 12:09 pm

dons wrote:If I ever were to build a second one, I think I would go QB.

I also agree with John about the priming, if I wasn't going to be flying the thing in the clouds and to the coast, I wouldn't be doing nearly as much. BTW John, I like the prehistoric squirrel too, I actually watched the 'meltdown' the day before you changed avatars. He would make a great airplane builder, gets his teeth into something and just won't let go.

I agre that if I built a second one I would strongly consider a QB. Once I know what is in there and how it's put together I don;t need to see it twice.

Don, Scrat may go for a ride on my VS, we're not sure yet. I like his tenacity and he just reminds me of real life. You just can't ever give up.

Gregg Swartley · Post by **Gregg Swartley** » Mon May 28, 2007 3:16 pm

Ilove building and would not want to do anything to deprive myself of the fun of building.

Post by **Spike** » Mon May 28, 2007 4:28 pm

Amen to that Gregg. Sometimes I just want it done, but theres nothing like seeing a completed part/assembly that I did myself!

papakeith · Post by **papakeith** » Mon May 28, 2007 4:35 pm

this poll needs a fourth choice!

Brantel · Post by **Brantel** » Mon May 28, 2007 6:17 pm

Standard build for no reason but money! I don't dislike building but if I could have skipped all the repetitive task, I would in a heart beat. I am really looking forward to the systems, avionics and engine install! (Don't have a clue how I am going to pay for it at this time.)

1:1_Scale · Post by **1:1_Scale** » Mon May 28, 2007 7:00 pm

papakeith wrote:this poll needs a fourth choice!

Sorry PK, it looks like I can't go back and add the "Who needs a darn kit?!?" option

I've talked with two local RV owners now, and they both say that if they did it over again, they would go the QB route. They've both said that it would be money well spent, so I'm kind of surprised that no one has voted for the QB, and only one person has voted for the combination, thus far

BrickPilot · Post by **BrickPilot** » Mon May 28, 2007 7:50 pm

Standard build. I guess the money is part of the decision, but mostly I'm in it for the glory!

smittysrv · Post by **smittysrv** » Mon May 28, 2007 8:58 pm

I'm a firm believer in getting therapy when you need it. Dr VanGrunsven has given me perfect pill for taking my mind off stuff that brings me down. Slow BUILD and luvin' it!!!

Bob Barrett · Post by **Bob Barrett** » Mon May 28, 2007 9:25 pm

I went Quickbuild after doing the standard empenge but I have had the quickbuild since July of 2001 and I will have to speed up to get it flying in September. I am currently wiring up the instrument panel. Once that is in I have most of the hard work except putting the spinner on the prop done. You can solve some problems by planning your wiring routes while doing the standard build. However things will always change as you progress. Don't buy to far ahead!

cjensen · Post by **cjensen** » Mon May 28, 2007 9:47 pm

Brantel wrote: (Don't have a clue how I am going to pay for it at this time.)

You and me both buddy!!

RV9inIowa · Post by **RV9inIowa** » Mon May 28, 2007 11:16 pm

smittysrv wrote:I'm a firm believer in getting therapy when you need it. Dr VanGrunsven has given me perfect pill for taking my mind off stuff that brings me down.

Smitty's got it right.... it's Aluminum Therapy for me, slow version!

In my 2-3 year "pre-build" phase, I convinced myself that I'd go quickbuild - no questions asked - my time is worth more than $8K, blah blah blah....

Then I built the tail. That changed everything.

I've realized that I love building, especially with my heated and now newly airconditioned garage

. I'm sure glad I didn't go quickbuild!

dave

John Courte · Post by **John Courte** » Tue May 29, 2007 3:34 pm

I'm in it to fly, primarily, so the faster I can get in the air short of buying one, the better. I'm also a graphics geek, and my wife programmed HUDs for NASA at Ames for a while, so this will be a platform justifying the big 'EXPERIMENTAL' banner with different homebrew flight systems (redundant to primary, of course). I also chose the QB route because when the Real Job gets cranking, I sometimes don't spend more than an hour at home and awake at each end of the workday, so the time saved is well worth the extra bucks. Another benefit to the QB is that you actually spend most of the time working on something airplane-shaped instead of those initial stages where it somehow goes from a pile of aluminum to something airplane-shaped. Some folks live for that phase of the transition, and maybe when I've got more time to spare, I'll try it, but I'm happy with the QB choice for now.

RV7Factory · Post by **RV7Factory** » Tue May 29, 2007 6:13 pm

Standard (slow) kit for me. Why?

Because Confusious say... "It about journey, not destination."

Confusious also say... "Man who keep feet firmly on ground have trouble putting on pants."

1:1_Scale · Post by **1:1_Scale** » Tue May 29, 2007 7:44 pm

Any idea where the extra 2% is being stashed?

PapaKeith, are you hording percentage points??

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QB or SB?

What are you building?

QB or SB?

Slow build

Quickbuild

standard build = more fun

QB. quicker if I can.

SB