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Bushing in Aileron Bellcrank

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:58 pm
by Lorin Dueck
Hi all -
I would appreciate a little help / advice here. :?
For the 9A aileron bellcrank installation - the directions say to ream the WD-421 bushing to accept the AN 4 bolt.
My question is - should I spend the extra $$ and buy a .250 reamer - or just drill it out with a 1/4" bit in my drill press??
What did you do - and how did it work??
Recall that the bellcrank assembly rotates around the bushing - not the bolt....
Thanks, Lorin D

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:12 pm
by cjensen
I have a .250 reamer now, but didn't at the time. The 1/4" bit worked just fine for me. However, I would say go ahead and buy the .250 reamer. You'll need it in the future several times.

That bushing is probably easier to ream straight than drill straight.

My advise: Get the reamer.

:wink: :)

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:00 am
by bullojm1
I'd say get a reamer also. I use them all the time. I have them for #40, #30, #19, #12, 1/4" (Aileron Bushing), 5/16" (Rear wing spar) and 3/8" (engine mount). Check out mscdirect.com - they ship quickly and have great prices.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:12 pm
by jim_geo
I used the drill method myself also. Just use lots of oil, the brass loves to seize. Although not as bad as lead.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:22 pm
by smittysrv
I used a regular drill bit on mine, along with a flowing stream of cuss words. The reamer sounds cool. Anybody got a web link to that product?

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:48 pm
by weezbad
i drilled mine but had to use a dump trucl load of pressure on the bushing to keep it from spinning in the holding fixture( a piece of wood with a hole drilled through it cut in half). a reamer would make this a non event.. you local machione shop should have the popular sizes...fastenal comes to mind.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:51 pm
by Wicked Stick
http://www.micromatic.com/draft-keg-bee ... P-080.html

I guess they even use reamers for draft beer... :mrgreen:

Yet another use you can have it for....lol..
Seriously though, I wish I had bought the reamer at that stage in the build. I have them now in the sizes I need for the rest of the plane.
It really is the way to do it.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:56 pm
by cjensen
I use a #40 reamer on all pre-punched holes now, rather than the bit. Makes a really smooth, straight hole! 8)

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:01 pm
by Lorin Dueck
Great guys!!
Looks likeI get to buy a new bunch of tools :good job:

Thx, Lorin D

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:59 pm
by Brantel
Used the take a piece of 2x4 drill a hole in it and split it with a band saw to about 1" past the hole method. Then clamped the split end with a c-clamp. This held the bushing just fine. I used the 1/4" drill bit and that worked just fine. I just kept working the bit up and down to clear out the powder.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:41 pm
by TomNativeNewYorker
A piloted reamer would even be better.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:34 am
by tshort
Brantel wrote:Used the take a piece of 2x4 drill a hole in it and split it with a band saw to about 1" past the hole method. Then clamped the split end with a c-clamp. This held the bushing just fine. I used the 1/4" drill bit and that worked just fine. I just kept working the bit up and down to clear out the powder.
THAT is a good idea. I ordered two extra bushings with my last order from Van's because I wasn't happy with how the first turned out (irregularities on the inside and overall poor fit of the bolt). I'm not sure why the first one was bad because I did it with a drill press and a reamer, but...
That seems like a great way to hold it steady and vertical...

Thomas

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:45 pm
by RV7Factory
Yup, it works well...

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More pics here.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:34 pm
by Lorin Dueck
Well,

I bought several reamers from MSC Direct (Thanks for the reference Mike!).. clamped the parts using the "Brantel method" (great suggestion!)... and completed the setup by following Brads steps (simple & accurate!!).
After adjusting the drill press to the slowest speed - and a using a little boelube... it was a no-brainer. 30 minutes and I was done with both bushings. The fit came out perfect.
I can't believe I was sweating tihs one!!

Thanks to all!!

For those of you who have not gotten here yet - BUY THE REAMERS!!!

Lorin D.
9A Wings
N194LD reserved

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:09 pm
by cjensen
Good deal Lorin! Glad it worked out great! The reamers are really worth having around.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:21 am
by Brantel
Not my method, I think I stole it from Brad so it is the "Brad" method.

Glad it worked out though!

:P
Lorin Dueck wrote:Well,

I bought several reamers from MSC Direct (Thanks for the reference Mike!).. clamped the parts using the "Brantel method" (great suggestion!)... and completed the setup by following Brads steps (simple & accurate!!).
After adjusting the drill press to the slowest speed - and a using a little boelube... it was a no-brainer. 30 minutes and I was done with both bushings. The fit came out perfect.
I can't believe I was sweating tihs one!!

Thanks to all!!

For those of you who have not gotten here yet - BUY THE REAMERS!!!

Lorin D.
9A Wings
N194LD reserved

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:21 pm
by RV7Factory
Brantel wrote:Not my method, I think I stole it from Brad so it is the "Brad" method.
Yes, and I want royalties!!! :wink: :mrgreen:

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:19 am
by weezbad
RV7Factory wrote: Yes, and I want royalties!!! :wink: :mrgreen:
oh, i see how its gonna be, you guys have put me on the ignore list :cry: or dont want to share any of the moneywith me :roll:
weezbad wrote:i drilled mine but had to use a dump truck load of pressure on the bushing to keep it from spinning in the holding fixture( a piece of wood with a hole drilled through it cut in half). a reamer would make this a non event.. you local machine shop should have the popular sizes...fastenal comes to mind.
i used a vise instead of clamps.
i did however drill the hole parallel to the split in the wood. after reading "brantels method i see he mentioned not cutting the block completely in half. which IMHO would help even more? 8)
i really feel sorry for the people trying to build a plane and dont have internet access. there is so much to be gained from the net its ridiculous. :)

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:20 am
by BSwayze
I'd say get a reamer also. I use them all the time. I have them for #40, #30, #19, #12, 1/4" (Aileron Bushing), 5/16" (Rear wing spar) and 3/8" (engine mount). Check out mscdirect.com - they ship quickly and have great prices.
Mike,

Thanks for the link and the tip! I ordered all the reamers you suggested, except for the #30 and #40 (already had those). Great prices, and they arrived here in two days. I'll be using the .250 soon for my aileron bushings!

Bruce

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:32 pm
by Brantel
Ok, we are going to have to call it the "bradweezbad" method. Or the "weezbadbrad" method.

You guys can fight over who's name comes first. :P

:wink:
weezbad wrote:
RV7Factory wrote: Yes, and I want royalties!!! :wink: :mrgreen:
oh, i see how its gonna be, you guys have put me on the ignore list :cry: or dont want to share any of the moneywith me :roll:
weezbad wrote:i drilled mine but had to use a dump truck load of pressure on the bushing to keep it from spinning in the holding fixture( a piece of wood with a hole drilled through it cut in half). a reamer would make this a non event.. you local machine shop should have the popular sizes...fastenal comes to mind.
i used a vise instead of clamps.
i did however drill the hole parallel to the split in the wood. after reading "brantels method i see he mentioned not cutting the block completely in half. which IMHO would help even more? 8)
i really feel sorry for the people trying to build a plane and dont have internet access. there is so much to be gained from the net its ridiculous. :)