How do you Identify an IO320-B1A, Wide deck vs Narrow Deck, Conical, dynofocal Type 1, Type 2?
Can this be identified by Serial Number alone?
Pat in Calgary
Identifing an IO320 B1A
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Welcome Pat! I can't answer the questions about the mounts, though I'm sure someone here can. As far as the wide/narrow deck question, that is basically the size of the flange at the bottom of the jugs. I believe that there was a time period where the narrow deck engines were transitioned to the wide deck engines. If you do a search here I think you will come up with answers to that.
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Identifing an IO320 B1A
John,
Thanks for the help. I now know what I have and know
that I have to modify this engine some how to move the
fuel servo to the bottom of the engine. this means a
new sump etc' to be able to use this io320-b1a
I've got time, I'm just setting up the stringers in
the RV-6 fuselage,
regards,
Pat
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Thanks for the help. I now know what I have and know
that I have to modify this engine some how to move the
fuel servo to the bottom of the engine. this means a
new sump etc' to be able to use this io320-b1a
I've got time, I'm just setting up the stringers in
the RV-6 fuselage,
regards,
Pat
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> Yeah, there is some info on the wide/narrow deck
> stuff here in this thread
>
(http://www.rivetbangers.com/cgi-php/for ... light=deck).
>
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Pat,
An IO-320-B1A is a Dynafocal II engine. Notice the scalloped portion of the crankcase where the Lord mount would but up against the case. There are special spacers that fit in these machined scalloped areas. N/D IO-320-B1A engines have plates between the barrel shaped cylinder base nuts and the cylinder flange. W/D will have a hex shaped nut and no plates. Some low compression O-320N/D engine will have the barrel shaped nut with out the plates between the nut and flange. Bottom line is if you have barrel shaped nuts it should be a N/D.
The type sump you want to change to will bolt up to either a N/D or W/D engine.
Good Luck,
Mahlon
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An IO-320-B1A is a Dynafocal II engine. Notice the scalloped portion of the crankcase where the Lord mount would but up against the case. There are special spacers that fit in these machined scalloped areas. N/D IO-320-B1A engines have plates between the barrel shaped cylinder base nuts and the cylinder flange. W/D will have a hex shaped nut and no plates. Some low compression O-320N/D engine will have the barrel shaped nut with out the plates between the nut and flange. Bottom line is if you have barrel shaped nuts it should be a N/D.
The type sump you want to change to will bolt up to either a N/D or W/D engine.
Good Luck,
Mahlon
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Identifing an IO320 B1A
Mahlon,
this clears things up and will look tonight after
work.
when we talk about sump changes, what's the hit on
this change over?
regards,
Pat
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> Pat,
> An IO-320-B1A is a Dynafocal II engine. Notice the
> scalloped portion of the crankcase where the Lord
> mount would but up against the case. There are
> special spacers that fit in these machined scalloped
> areas. N/D IO-320-B1A engines have plates between
> the barrel shaped cylinder base nuts and the
> cylinder flange. W/D will have a hex shaped nut and
> no plates. Some low compression O-320N/D engine will
> have the barrel shaped nut with out the plates
> between the nut and flange. Bottom line is if you
> have barrel shaped nuts it should be a N/D.
> The type sump you want to change to will bolt up to
> either a N/D or W/D engine.
> Good Luck,
> Mahlon
> "The opinions and information provided in this and
> all of my posts
> are hopefully helpful to you. Please use the
> information provided responsibly and at you own
> risk."
>
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this clears things up and will look tonight after
work.
when we talk about sump changes, what's the hit on
this change over?
regards,
Pat
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<support@rivetbangers.com> wrote:
> Pat,
> An IO-320-B1A is a Dynafocal II engine. Notice the
> scalloped portion of the crankcase where the Lord
> mount would but up against the case. There are
> special spacers that fit in these machined scalloped
> areas. N/D IO-320-B1A engines have plates between
> the barrel shaped cylinder base nuts and the
> cylinder flange. W/D will have a hex shaped nut and
> no plates. Some low compression O-320N/D engine will
> have the barrel shaped nut with out the plates
> between the nut and flange. Bottom line is if you
> have barrel shaped nuts it should be a N/D.
> The type sump you want to change to will bolt up to
> either a N/D or W/D engine.
> Good Luck,
> Mahlon
> "The opinions and information provided in this and
> all of my posts
> are hopefully helpful to you. Please use the
> information provided responsibly and at you own
> risk."
>
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Pat,
For a new vertical sump, sump gasket, 4ea intake pipes, 4 ea. intake pipe gaskets and 4 ea intake pipe rubber hoses it runs 569.54 plus freight from us. I don't have any used ones to sell but you might save a couple hundred bucks if you can find used.
After I posted this I realized I used 360 parts to look up pricing, not 320 parts...the 320 parts should be close in price but might vary a little bit.
Good Luck,
Mahlon
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For a new vertical sump, sump gasket, 4ea intake pipes, 4 ea. intake pipe gaskets and 4 ea intake pipe rubber hoses it runs 569.54 plus freight from us. I don't have any used ones to sell but you might save a couple hundred bucks if you can find used.
After I posted this I realized I used 360 parts to look up pricing, not 320 parts...the 320 parts should be close in price but might vary a little bit.
Good Luck,
Mahlon
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Identifing an IO320 B1A
Mahlon,
Thanks for getting back to me on this.
I have an old IO320 parts catalog and the part number
I seem to come up with is lw-10751 for the sump, with
the footnote on the bottom of the page ** Dynafocal
mount. for use with injector.** is there another part
number I should look for in the used market? Talked
to a local Mechanic an he gave me P/N 10830 or 10828,
he said either one will do. With Lycoming being
specific I don't want to chance buying a used sump
that won't fit on the dynafocal Type II engine. It
appears that this changes the engine to a IO320-D1A (
bottom drafted injected engine )using the Lycoming
Spec Sheets on their web page.
There's the next problem, the injector air body, can
it be used in the new location? If not can you tell
me what the cost of this unit will be and is there any
market for my used one? I'm told the Prop govenor
installation on the PA-30 will be too long for the
RV-6 and I should be looking for a Woodward govenor.
This sounds like the Johnny Cash song "One Piece at a
Time"
If I can't find the part number you recommend for the
sump well just go ahead with the new part from you
when the time comes.
P.S. Where is you Facility located?
Regards,
Pat in Calgary,Alberta
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> Pat,
> For a new vertical sump, sump gasket, 4ea intake
> pipes, 4 ea. intake pipe gaskets and 4 ea intake
> pipe rubber hoses it runs 569.54 plus freight from
> us. I don't have any used ones to sell but you might
> save a couple hundred bucks if you can find used.
> Good Luck,
> Mahlon
> "The opinions and information provided in this and
> all of my posts are hopefully helpful to you. Please
> use the information provided responsibly and at you
> own risk."
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Thanks for getting back to me on this.
I have an old IO320 parts catalog and the part number
I seem to come up with is lw-10751 for the sump, with
the footnote on the bottom of the page ** Dynafocal
mount. for use with injector.** is there another part
number I should look for in the used market? Talked
to a local Mechanic an he gave me P/N 10830 or 10828,
he said either one will do. With Lycoming being
specific I don't want to chance buying a used sump
that won't fit on the dynafocal Type II engine. It
appears that this changes the engine to a IO320-D1A (
bottom drafted injected engine )using the Lycoming
Spec Sheets on their web page.
There's the next problem, the injector air body, can
it be used in the new location? If not can you tell
me what the cost of this unit will be and is there any
market for my used one? I'm told the Prop govenor
installation on the PA-30 will be too long for the
RV-6 and I should be looking for a Woodward govenor.
This sounds like the Johnny Cash song "One Piece at a
Time"
If I can't find the part number you recommend for the
sump well just go ahead with the new part from you
when the time comes.
P.S. Where is you Facility located?
Regards,
Pat in Calgary,Alberta
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<support@rivetbangers.com> wrote:
> Pat,
> For a new vertical sump, sump gasket, 4ea intake
> pipes, 4 ea. intake pipe gaskets and 4 ea intake
> pipe rubber hoses it runs 569.54 plus freight from
> us. I don't have any used ones to sell but you might
> save a couple hundred bucks if you can find used.
> Good Luck,
> Mahlon
> "The opinions and information provided in this and
> all of my posts are hopefully helpful to you. Please
> use the information provided responsibly and at you
> own risk."
>
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Pat,
P/N's lw-14257, Lw-10830,lw-10828, lw-10751 and 74083 all should work fine for you.
The fuel servo from the IO-320-B1A will mount in any direction and will bolt up fine to the vertical sump. The mixture arm travel is backwards to most other 320 and 360 servo on the unit from the B1A so you might have to do some control re-rigging to make that work or get the unit modified to the way the others are.
I don't think you would want to use the gov off the Io-320- B1A as it is a full feathering type used on twin engine aircraft. The shape however is the same as all Hartzell governors and if a regular Hartzell gov. will fit in the nacelle, this one should as well.
We are located in NY on Long Island, in God's country, about 65 miles due east of NYC.
Good Luck,
Mahlon
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P/N's lw-14257, Lw-10830,lw-10828, lw-10751 and 74083 all should work fine for you.
The fuel servo from the IO-320-B1A will mount in any direction and will bolt up fine to the vertical sump. The mixture arm travel is backwards to most other 320 and 360 servo on the unit from the B1A so you might have to do some control re-rigging to make that work or get the unit modified to the way the others are.
I don't think you would want to use the gov off the Io-320- B1A as it is a full feathering type used on twin engine aircraft. The shape however is the same as all Hartzell governors and if a regular Hartzell gov. will fit in the nacelle, this one should as well.
We are located in NY on Long Island, in God's country, about 65 miles due east of NYC.
Good Luck,
Mahlon
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Identifing an IO320 B1A
Mahlon,
Once again, Thank you! Years ago I choose aviation as
a hobby, and outlet from the rigours of everyday life.
It has been a constant in life and maybe because of
the kind of people it attracts. Your one of them!
Thanks once again. You have definatly earned my future
business.
Pat in Calgary, Alberta
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<support@rivetbangers.com> wrote:
> Pat,
> P/N's lw-14257, Lw-10830,lw-10828, lw-10751 and
> 74083 all should work fine for you.
> The fuel servo from the IO-320-B1A will mount in any
> direction and will bolt up fine to the vertical
> sump. The mixture arm travel is backwards to most
> other 320 and 360 servo on the unit from the B1A so
> you might have to do some control re-rigging to make
> that work or get the unit modified to the way the
> others are.
> I don't think you would want to use the gov off the
> Io-320- B1A as it is a full feathering type used on
> twin engine aircraft. The shape however is the same
> as all Hartzell governors and if a regular Hartzell
> gov. will fit in the nacelle, this one should as
> well.
> We are located in NY on Long Island, in God's
> country, about 65 miles due east of NYC.
> Good Luck,
> Mahlon
> "The opinions and information provided in this and
> all of my posts are hopefully helpful to you. Please
> use the information provided responsibly and at you
> own risk."
>
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Once again, Thank you! Years ago I choose aviation as
a hobby, and outlet from the rigours of everyday life.
It has been a constant in life and maybe because of
the kind of people it attracts. Your one of them!
Thanks once again. You have definatly earned my future
business.
Pat in Calgary, Alberta
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<support@rivetbangers.com> wrote:
> Pat,
> P/N's lw-14257, Lw-10830,lw-10828, lw-10751 and
> 74083 all should work fine for you.
> The fuel servo from the IO-320-B1A will mount in any
> direction and will bolt up fine to the vertical
> sump. The mixture arm travel is backwards to most
> other 320 and 360 servo on the unit from the B1A so
> you might have to do some control re-rigging to make
> that work or get the unit modified to the way the
> others are.
> I don't think you would want to use the gov off the
> Io-320- B1A as it is a full feathering type used on
> twin engine aircraft. The shape however is the same
> as all Hartzell governors and if a regular Hartzell
> gov. will fit in the nacelle, this one should as
> well.
> We are located in NY on Long Island, in God's
> country, about 65 miles due east of NYC.
> Good Luck,
> Mahlon
> "The opinions and information provided in this and
> all of my posts are hopefully helpful to you. Please
> use the information provided responsibly and at you
> own risk."
>
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