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DIY: Cable to record cockpit audio on your Smartphone/GoPro

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When I flew to Oshkosh two years ago, my friend Peter brought with him a cockpit voice recorded audio cable made by NFlightcam which connected inline with the headset cable, and had a pigtail wire which you could connect to your phone to record audio. I looked at buying one, but it was somewhere around $40 (http://www.amazon.com/Nflightcam-Smartp ... B00HQMLFWC) which seemed to be excessive considering all it consisted of were a could of cheap connectors and some resistors. So I reverse engineered the cable, ordered the connectors and resistors off of EBay from China and for under $10 made my own version.
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This is the basic schematic of the cable. The parts list is simply the following:

(1) Male 1/4" Stereo Plug
(1) Female 1/4" Stereo Jack
(1) 3.5mm (1/8") TRRS Cable - 6'
(1) 1.8 kOhm Resistor
(1) 62 kOhm Resistor

I was able to squeeze all of the resistors into the male jack, although it was a tight fit.
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The Tip and Ground are the only contacts used for the microphone, however, you do need to pass the RING signal to the female jack for the headset to work.
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The TRRS 3.5mm jack only needs the first two contacts used for the audio.
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Cool project! Would this work with a GoPro? Or is it just for iPhone?
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Bruce,

The signal voltage levels this circuit outputs is definitely compatible with a GoPro, you will just need use a stereo 3-conductor 3.5mm plug wired slightly differently, and a 3.5mm <-> USB Mini connector similar to the following:

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(Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-USB-3-5mm- ... SwnDxUkoPE - $1.39 shipped from HK)

12/2022 update (above ebay link is no longer valid)
https://www.amazon.com/ASHATA-Camera-Ad ... B07YWVPRFK

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Thank you SO much for posting this - I have been looking at the NightFlight audio recording cable and suspected it was
pretty basic (apart from the price!) I have their propellor filter on my GoPro and had to modify it to make it fit...

I have ordered the parts to make one, but had a sudden thought - my headset jacks are different sizes (David Clark 13.4)
and if I remember correctly the mic jack is not a quarter of an inch (6.35mm in the UK) but smaller?? (which being a non-standard
size I suspect will be impossible to obtain!)

I have ordered a 6.35 male/female stereo cable and plan to unscrew the socket and attach a cable, terminated with the
3.5mm four ring jack plug (which I actually had several of already)

You do clearly state 6.35mm - I guess what is being recorded is what is fed back to the earcups? Hence using the larger jack?

I am asking because I am planning to also make an adaptor to record the audio directly on my GoPro Hero 3+ ultimately (I have also
ordered some right angle USB mini plugs with this in mind)

Best wishes from the south west of the UK

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Hi Chris,

First and foremost, welcome to Rivetbangers!

I don't think you need to be concerned with the mic jack, as the mic audio is fed back through the headphones via the intercom. You only need the 1/4" plug and jack.

I haven't used this with the GoPro yet (I have the GoPro mounted on the tail of my airplane), but I record the audio through my phone's mic jack all of the time successfully.
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Thanks very much - I'll give it a go and let you know how I get on :)

Regards

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I have finally got around to this - and success :)

The only thing I might change it to connect left and right audio together, as with one side not connected there was a little bit of noise on that channel, but otherwise the quality was excellent :)

I would post a short sample but can't see any way to include attachments??

This will enhance my videos considerably, once again thank you so much

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Hi
Thanks for this very interesting schematic. It is very expensive to buy such cable in Europe so I will be happy to built my own one. However I am not so skilled in electronic and wonder if the values of the resistors you put will be compatible if I use a voice recorder with a 2 kohms mic input line and an headset David clarck H10 13.

Thanks for your reply,

JB

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Could anyone please upload the pics again? seems to be down....
Great job bullojm1, thank you very much for sharing this

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Thank u!!

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Hi everyone
First of all happy Xmas Eve for averyone.
I have trouble with this diagram, I´ve made the cable but still can´t get it to work on a Moto X Gen4 :|
Don´t know where the problem is, already check the wiring, but it´s like the cell won´t detect the external mic. (Already checked with a motorola wired headset and the mic works perfect)
Thank you in advance!
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Thank you SO much for posting this - I have been looking at the NightFlight audio recording cable and suspected it was
pretty basic (apart from the price!) I have their propellor filter on my GoPro and had to modify it to make it fit...

I have ordered the parts to make one, but had a sudden thought - my headset jacks are different sizes (David Clark 13.4)
and if I remember correctly the mic jack is not a quarter of an inch (6.35mm in the UK) but smaller?? (which being a non-standard
size I suspect will be impossible to obtain!)

I have ordered a 6.35 male/female stereo cable and plan to unscrew the socket and attach a cable, terminated with the
3.5mm four ring jack plug (which I actually had several of already)

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