Soooooo... Billy's Six has been having a main wheel shimmy on both main wheel for about the last 10 hours. The plane has 110 hours on it and it has gotten really bad.
We decided to look into it a bit more deeply. We balanced the tires using tape-a-weights and it improved a bit. It took a fair amount of weight. Probably about 3-4" of weights on each wheel!
After a test flight, I saw only a slight improvement. The shimmy was the worst between 14-34 knots either decelerating or accelerating.
The tires are out of round and I was wondering if that was contributing to the problem in any way.
Billy suggested lowering tire pressure. We brought the tires down to about 26 lbs and it was like MAGIC! ALL the shimmy was gone!
I guess that the additional rolling friction with the lower tire pressure reduces the ability of the wheel to speed up and oscillate in a fore and aft motion.
Perhaps when the tires were newer and less egg shaped this didn't matter as much but now that they are older...
Soooo, if this helps anyone out there... That is why we are here!
I am sure this isn't anything new but it is worth stating again.
I hope it helps you!
CJ
The things we learn... Wheel Shimmy
- captain_john
- Sparky
- Posts: 5880
- Joined: Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:17 am
- Location: KPYM
The things we learn... Wheel Shimmy
RV-7
Garmin G3X with VP-X & a TMX-IO-360 with G3i
It's all over but the flying! 800+ hours in only 3 years!
Garmin G3X with VP-X & a TMX-IO-360 with G3i
It's all over but the flying! 800+ hours in only 3 years!
-
- Class G
- Posts: 16
- Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:39 pm
- Location: KPYM
- Contact:
Also watch the wear on the kit supplied tires CJ. I started to get shimmy and did all the things you did, short of making gear leg stiffeners. Replaced the tires with monster retreads from Desser, and couldn't believe the difference.
I would mostly get shimmy on roll out from landing. I suppose the improvement could be from the fact that all my landings are greasers.......
I would mostly get shimmy on roll out from landing. I suppose the improvement could be from the fact that all my landings are greasers.......
Jeff Orear
RV6A N782P
Hatz Classic, Welding fuselage
Hatz build log. https://eaabuilderslog.org/?blproject&p ... GNCwv&sid=
Peshtigo, WI
RV6A N782P
Hatz Classic, Welding fuselage
Hatz build log. https://eaabuilderslog.org/?blproject&p ... GNCwv&sid=
Peshtigo, WI
- captain_john
- Sparky
- Posts: 5880
- Joined: Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:17 am
- Location: KPYM
DOH!!! Good one Billleeeee!!!Bill H wrote:He has been to busy celebrating his birth day and hanging out with his girlfriend
hahaha
Speedpants who??? Oh yah! That guy who used to drink my Hangar 5 beers!?!
Billy, are you gonna need that knife back?
CJ
BTW guys... I am ready to have you guys back over and do some epoxying for me now!
RV-7
Garmin G3X with VP-X & a TMX-IO-360 with G3i
It's all over but the flying! 800+ hours in only 3 years!
Garmin G3X with VP-X & a TMX-IO-360 with G3i
It's all over but the flying! 800+ hours in only 3 years!
- captain_john
- Sparky
- Posts: 5880
- Joined: Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:17 am
- Location: KPYM
Jeff, I just don't think those wooden stiffeners are really necessary.painless wrote:Also watch the wear on the kit supplied tires CJ. I started to get shimmy and did all the things you did, short of making gear leg stiffeners. Replaced the tires with monster retreads from Desser, and couldn't believe the difference.
I would mostly get shimmy on roll out from landing. I suppose the improvement could be from the fact that all my landings are greasers.......
I agree...
The retreads are very popular! Good call!
CJ
RV-7
Garmin G3X with VP-X & a TMX-IO-360 with G3i
It's all over but the flying! 800+ hours in only 3 years!
Garmin G3X with VP-X & a TMX-IO-360 with G3i
It's all over but the flying! 800+ hours in only 3 years!
captain_john wrote:
Jeff, I just don't think those wooden stiffeners are really necessary.
I agree. Never made/installed any.
Happy birthday, and give my regards to Michelle. I still say she's a Saint for putting up with you.....
Jeff Orear
RV6A N782P
Hatz Classic, Welding fuselage
Hatz build log. https://eaabuilderslog.org/?blproject&p ... GNCwv&sid=
Peshtigo, WI
RV6A N782P
Hatz Classic, Welding fuselage
Hatz build log. https://eaabuilderslog.org/?blproject&p ... GNCwv&sid=
Peshtigo, WI
- captain_john
- Sparky
- Posts: 5880
- Joined: Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:17 am
- Location: KPYM
Nooo... it's Speedpants' birthday! ...or it was.painless wrote:captain_john wrote:
Jeff, I just don't think those wooden stiffeners are really necessary.
I agree. Never made/installed any.
Happy birthday, and give my regards to Michelle. I still say she's a Saint for putting up with you.....
He has been kinda scarce since he has been getting regular tune ups!
...and yes, I have no idea why Michele hangs around with me either! hahaha
I will tell her you said hello, though!
CJ
RV-7
Garmin G3X with VP-X & a TMX-IO-360 with G3i
It's all over but the flying! 800+ hours in only 3 years!
Garmin G3X with VP-X & a TMX-IO-360 with G3i
It's all over but the flying! 800+ hours in only 3 years!
captain_john wrote:
...and yes, I have no idea why Michele hangs around with me either! hahaha
Because you live in the boonies and Michele has no choice. Tell her come to NY
Shimmy wise last week I've seen Richie out of Spadaro was glassing stiffeners to his 6 legs.
RV-9A N666BK flying 4,500+ hours since 2011